I'm referring to a fuse in such a box.
2014-10-05 11:27 GMT+03:00 Ronen Shouker <***@gmail.com>:
> Maybe the electric company fuse is burnt? If so it is easy enough to fix,
> (although we should technically call the electric company, so they would
> replace it.)
>
> 2014-10-05 8:10 GMT+03:00 Alon Levy <***@pobox.com>:
>
>> On 10/04/2014 10:44 PM, Guy Ovadia wrote:
>> > who was the electrician who installed the 3-phase for the mill and
>> > lathe? I think it was maybe someone's father? perhaps they can be
>> > persuaded to help again?
>>
>> It was Yuval who is now living in Pennsylvania's father.
>>
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Guy Ovadia <***@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > damn...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Yair Reshef <***@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > interesting, but...
>> > if you connect a lamp to it it will work at half brightness.
>> tested
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Guy Ovadia <
>> ***@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > that last point (about 80V etc) is IMO just induced voltage
>> > and it should disappear under load (even a small load). the
>> > multimeter you measure it with is such a tiny load though
>> > (typically 10 MOhm) that the induced voltage is not
>> > attenuated very much by it. basically the disconnected wire
>> > acts as an antenna and receives voltage from a neighboring
>> > wire. this effect is largest if the wires run some length in
>> > parallel to one another (e.g., same tube in the wall).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Yair Reshef
>> > <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > they just stopped working, they do not trip nor produce
>> > any other outcome.
>> > replacing them is an exercise i don't plan to undergo
>> >
>> > also, some breakers have a wired/weird relationship
>> > between each other.
>> >
>> > we saw this last time we did the tour.
>> > like #10 will have around 80V even if switched of, not
>> > until we kill #12 will it go to 0v...
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Guy Ovadia
>> > <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > ouch. no AC...
>> >
>> > what do you mean by "lost them"? are the switches
>> > (i.e. automatic fuses in the electricity box) got
>> > damaged (if so, how?) or do you mean that turning
>> > them on pops the safety breaker?
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Yair Reshef
>> > <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > we routed the upper floor to #12 (socket above
>> > the wooden stairs), metal room can also use this
>> > muti-socket. until a better plan is formed.
>> >
>> > as zvi is out this month and me this week its an
>> > open task.
>> > noam feels he can try to replace them breakers.
>> > but i hope we get a licensed electrician soon.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Yair Reshef
>> > <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > well, another electricity crisis
>> >
>> > we lost switch 23 and 20
>> >
>> > #23 - was feeding the AC, fans , glass room
>> > and upper floor
>> >
>> > #20 was feeding the main pc table, the
>> > electronics bench and main pillar (sewing
>> > machine and audio)
>> >
>> > we routed #10 to feed main pc table and
>> > electronic table instead of #20 (#10 is
>> > above the kitchen sink)
>> >
>> > we routed #19 to feed the glass room
>> >
>> > fans and AC are no more operational
>> >
>> >
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